Let’s take the original comics Superman. Who's Gonna Win? After Vegeta was sent into the sky and gone for a moment, Yajirobe comes over to congratulate Goku on “killing” the Saiyan and pats Goku on the back, causing Goku to scream in pain. As the two boys apologize, Goku and Vegeta discuss the pacifier, where Vegeta states he would have chosen death over chewing on one if he knew what they were. This means Kid Boo is, by canon, immensely weaker than Fat Boo, and weaker than Super Boo since Super Boo had Gohan/Gotenks/Piccolo adding to his power. This episode first aired in Japan on June 5, 2016. Goku begins his battle to the death with Duplicate Vegeta, and they turn out to be evenly matched. Episode # Goku telepathically communicates with Krillin when he awakens and begins the Spirit Bomb plan as Gohan faces Vegeta. Goku vs. the Duplicate Vegeta! However, as King Kai states, Goku was to never go above x2 at this point or else he could be paralyzed or die. As the manga shows, Super Boo in any form was stronger than SSJ3 Goku but Kid Boo was weaker. Neither Goku nor Vegeta alone could handle Fat Boo OR Super Boo, so it’s no surprise they’d still struggle against Kid Boo, who was only a couple pegs below Fat and Super Boo. It comes to two possible reasons: I don’t believe Toriyama wrote the battle between them to have Goku win, because he obviously couldn’t. So Round 1 is a stomp by Dialga, either through it's time warping ability, or if Goku and Vegeta manage to kill it, they also lose due to them literally killing the being that makes time go round. Knowing he is short on time, Goku then transforms into a Super Saiyan Blue. SOS from the Future: A Dark New Enemy Appears! Goku can only fight at peak power for a couple minutes before needing to power down out of exhaustion (refer to his battle against Kid Boo and the drain of SSJ3.) Now, if chi doesn’t exist in Superman’s universe and the two fought in Superman’s universe, Goku instantly has zero power to draw from. 悟空VS複製ベジータ! Duplicate Vegeta fires a barrage of energy blasts at Goku, who manages to block them. Previous episode First, we are never given a true example of how powerful Fat Boo is. He also broke space and time barriers in a fight, survived a supernova that destroyed the planet he was on, got hit by a nuclear blast after being exposed to massive amounts of kryptonite, and kept fighting non-stop for several days on end. 悟空VS複製ベジータ! They’re two different fighters, in different universes, obeying a different set of space/time laws, using different power scalings, and different attacks. So even if Superman is on top of the fight, he would be wise to end it quickly because if Vegeta is given enough time, he will definitely … GokÅ« tai fukusei BejÄ«ta! The most modern version of the characters apply. Vegeta then screams out of anger. Saga Its original American airdate was January 13, 2018. Goku vs Vegeta First Fight. Trunks remembers that the main body was Duplicate Gryll, whom Duplicate Vegeta defeated earlier. Buu’s main strong point is their instant regeneration that comes from being a blob monster in humanoid form. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! Maybe being in the Z universe would give Supes more power. We don’t know how either fighter would be in the others universe or what powers they would or wouldn’t have. I’m currently involved in a debate with a kid who clearly doesn’t know much about the series and is apparently using the FUNimation dub as a basis for his incorrect thoughts on what is “fact” in the DB universe (but that’s nothing new by a long shot). 0. I don't post very often and mostly only do when I need a point raised to share with someone. Kid Goku vs Vegeta. Superhero fans who loved reading about OP characters need to look no farther than the wildly popular Dragon Ball manga series. Potage re-seals Commeson, and thanks everyone for their efforts. Goku vs Vegeta = Goku lost, was out of the battle. Only Kid and Super Boo were ever hurt. If you need the long and detailed version, brace yourself and remember before you try arguing it, this was all in the manga: When Goku arrives back on Earth to face Vegeta and Nappa, Vegeta states that Goku’s combat level is 8,000 (Yes, 8000, not 9000 like that one bad dub said). He’s the hero who tries no matter how bad the outcome looks. Vegeta starts getting frustrated that Duplicate Vegeta is failing to dodge certain attacks and begins cheering for his clone when he knocks Goku away. When the final villain blows up Earth five seconds into forming, fans are going to form the impression he’s the strongest one. 勝つのはどっちだ!? Doesn't matter Goku was still alive and conscious: without outside help he was unable to do anything. As I’ve explained to others, having no access to your power is not the same as not having the power. Goku uses Instant Transmission to constantly teleport around Duplicate Vegeta and lands an attack on him, and starts turning the battle in his favor. Jaco points out that Vegeta is even more transparent than before. Goku and Vegeta are very strong and it wouldn't be easy to break them down emotionally by the use of telepathy but Galactus and Silver Surfer won't race unless they try it out. Much to everyone's surprise, Duplicate Vegeta also transforms. So, why still fight knowing he couldn’t win? Kid Boo had no one aiding him anymore. SSJ2 Kid Gohan vs. SSJ2 Post-Majin Vegeta? Jaco pulls out his camera, realizing he would not see another scene like this, but much to his dismay, his camera's battery had run out. Commeson takes advantages of this and quickly attacks Trunks. Durability. Again, it comes down to which one you choose, and it unfairly gives one an advantage. Not only are characters like Goku and Vegeta already insanely powerful, they regularly train to become even more powerful and seek out worthy opponents to test their strength.. With all of … This literally states Kid Boo was weaker than SSJ3 Goku if he could have killed Kid Boo at full power. Japanese A draw. 0. Goku, realizing this is his chance, fires a God Kamehameha at Duplicate Vegeta, disintegrating him. Posted by 3 hours ago. You can’t take a movie character who lost to a powered up SSJ1 and say he could destroy a villain who could beat a max power SSJ3 Goku. Are you tired of all the biased arguments in regards to Goku vs. Superman? 0 wins (0%) Kid Goku Kakarot: power stats. Let’s say vegeta goes ssbe and gives every bit of power he has to mui goku then dies. "Goku vs Copy-Vegeta! Every other Saigon Vs Goku and Vegeta. Goku was determined to die fighting for Earth and its people. They wouldn’t have. So we can tell that, when Goku and Vegeta first met, Vegeta … It is in their genes. Gohan strikes it back when Vegeta dodges it and Vegeta takes the full force brunt of the Spirit Bomb. And as I said before, they live in alternate universes that cannot be compared. RELATED: Ultra Instinct Goku Vs Darkseid: Who Would Win? The core is seen hiding behind the group, and tries to sneak up on Goten, but Trunks and Jaco notices and blast through it, to no avail. When Goku couldn’t retain SSJ3 against Kid Boo, did that mean he didn’t have SSJ3 at all? 1. The manga states Gohan is 16 after the time skip between Cell Games and the Saiyaman sagas. He knew he wasn’t going to win and decided to do all he could to weaken Vegeta. Power. Maybe the sun in the Z universe isn’t strong enough to power him and instead his power would drain over time. But then you get bias and unfair advantages. Goku also possesses the ability to fly, a power unseen in Naruto. Goku vs Majin Vegeta: Stalemate. Goku states he overtaxed himself and he could barely move. A blog for posting manga scans and facts that many may not know or believe due to inaccuracies in the FUNimation dub. Goku Vs. Naruto. From basic flying to the Kamehameha wave, it all requires chi. Goku praises Monaka for defeating Commeson, commenting that he would have beaten Duplicate Vegeta in a little more time. !, on Crunchyroll. Jaco then trips, and Commeson is approaching him, but it evades Jaco and begins chasing the others. Supreme Kai states his power was locked away due to the gentleness of the last Kai he absorbed and he is never shown fighting at full power because of that drawback. Vegeta Disappears?! Grandpa Gohan names him “Son Goku”. Vegeta steps in-between Trunks and Commeson, as Trunks screams out for his father. Katsu no wa dotchida! Vegeta 'technically' won it since Goku ended up knocked out in the end. Toriyama wrote that fight to show even when he couldn’t win, Goku still gave his all. Goku stated many times Vegeta was too much for him. 0. However, as I pointed out, Fat Boo is the end result of Kid Boo gaining the power of FOUR different characters that could each beat Freeza with a punch. Back on Earth, Videl is holding Pan, who is chewing on a pacifier, saying that she will soon move past them. When Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, Goku survived as he was being sent to Earth. Vegeta's body grows back to being solid, and Trunks happily hugs him. Meanwhile, in the annihilated Alternate Timeline, Future Trunks is exhausted from running, until a blast of light surprises him. Vegeta angrily tried to Hit Goku with a Fist Goku barely Dodged and he then Punched Vegeta hard enough Vegeta flew up to a Wall, hurt. 1. Vegeta won vs Goku. January 13, 2018 Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to … That proves Fat Boo just playing around with maybe 20% power tops could do more to an SSJ2 than Kid Boo could at 100% to an SSJ2. I don’t feel the need to post a manga scan for this because it’s a pretty obvious thing to deduce even without it. Future Trunks is shown on the run from a mysterious assailant. This why in the final battle with Kid Buu, Goku was SSJ1/2 most of the time, and would temporarily pop into SSJ3 from time to time. Really think about that. Goku was done, beat and couldn’t move at all to fight. First off, Broly is non-canon so, by canonical…. But he STILL isn’t down. English Chi-Chi is relieved to see Goten is safe, and Bulma tells Trunks not to sneak on a spacecraft again. "Goku vs. the Duplicate Vegeta! We later learn during the events on Namek from Dodoria that before going to Earth, Vegeta’s combat level was 18,000. Vegeta gets up, completely tattered and torn, and says he’ll use the last of his power to kill every one of them before heading back to Freeza’s ship to recover. Goku battling Kid Boo as SSJ2 was anime exclusive filler. 0. He states Vegeta is far from finished and Yajirobe should run before he returns, which he does. Vegeta notices this and tries to reach out to Trunks, but his body phases through him. ?, lit. After freeing Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo, Goku states Super Boo (in his original form he fought Gotenks in) is still too powerful for either SSJ3 Goku or SSJ2 Vegeta, so that proves Super Boo even without any absorbed fighters is stronger than either of them. Babidi decided to have the Z fighters tackle a collection of his monsters in order to gather energy to awaken Buu, but Goku and Vegeta really didn't give them very much time. 46 Watch Dragon Ball Super Episode 46, Goku vs. Duplicated Vegeta! So, how old is Cell Games saga Gohan? The only reason he *seemed* strong was he was pure rage and unstable. Let's see, Dialga's very heartbeat keeps time going onwards. When Goku arrives back on Earth to face Vegeta and Nappa, Vegeta states that Goku’s combat level is 8,000 (Yes, 8000, not 9000 like that one bad dub said). I’m currently involved in yet another DBZ debate, this time concerning a guy claiming that Broly could beat Boo in a fight. Goku has a very established end of his timeline, whether it be when he leaves with Oob in the final chapter of Z or you’re one of those people who prefers the ending to GT and he flies off with Shenlong. Who Will Prevail?!") Vegeta charges at Goku. Vegeta then begins to argue with his copy about his sloppy style of fighting. Trunks notices that Vegeta's ki is disappearing, and quickly flies to him, and Goten follows. - The Goku and Vegeta used to make Vegito can both use "Complete Blue" (manga version) or SSBKX20 Goku and Royal Blue Vegeta (no UI for this version of Goku at all) - The MUI Goku can of course fully tap into and control UI at will and has basically Goku's power level at the end of the Moro arc. Every other Saigon Vs Goku and Vegeta. That all being said, you could very easily pit any number of Superman’s vs any number of Goku’s. Those were feats Goku could do as a child. Vegeta even points out that all the enemies Supreme Kai says are powerful have been very little effort to dispose of and that Boo overall had less power due to being locked away in the cocoon. who would win between MUI goku and super saiyan blue evolution vegeta vs full power naruto and sasuke ( sorry but idk what their full power is) Press J to jump to the feed. The two then prepare to continue their fight. The other sayains do the same to gohan. Vegeta is shocked to see he had been chewing on a thing babies chew on. Japanese airdate That should mean that in Trunks' time line there must have been another Trunks coming from his future to tell about Goku black but that can't be since 1. : then trunks would have already known about Goku black in his future time line since the future future trunks appeared already (l and 2. : that would also end in an endless … After using x3, Goku states he is already out of power and won’t be able to continue much longer, while Vegeta has plenty in reserve. Given Gohan is 16 post time skip and time skip lasted seven years, Teen Gohan is, in fact, a nine year old during the Cell Games. Duplicate Vegeta (Base/Super Saiyan Blue). Only in the Pokémon universe. Round 4 SSJ2 ENRAGED Kid Gohan vs. … At their first fight, while Vegeta came to Earth trying to destroy it, Goku defeated Vegeta. Sign Up Login. Vegeta: Agh! Another sign of this is Vegeta effortlessly creating an artificial moon, something that takes tremendous power output, while Goku is hunched over in a mess of pain. After landing on Earth, the young Saiyan was found in the woods by an old man named Gohan and became his adopted grandson. Losing his patience, Vegeta attempts to attack Duplicate Vegeta himself, but his attack phases through him completely. It’s his DNA. Vegeta, angry and humiliated, states he still has enough power to kill Goku, but decides to go Oozaru to make sure Goku really suffers with Vegeta’s maximum power. Battle. Broly was born on Planet Vegeta around the same time as Prince Vegeta and Goku, but even as a baby, Broly’s power level was abnormally high - so high that King Vegeta exiled … Fat Boo wanted to eat and play. He is claiming Kid Boo is stronger than Super Boo. Hell, we could take both characters at the very end of their respective timelines. Tier. He didn’t hide or run or back down from Vegeta. If you go into my archive and look at my VERY first post, it uses scans from the manga to debunk everything else you’ve said. SSJ1 Gohan and SSJ1 Goten together managed to beat Broly, so that ends it right there. Fight was already put on hold when Vegeta knocked Goku out. Kaio-Ken would double Goku to a combat level of 16,000, still less than Vegeta’s, so Kaio-Ken x 3 would triple it to make it 24,000, significantly higher than Vegeta’s, demonstrated when he beat the shit out of Vegeta. While most Dragon Ball fans believe that Super Saiyan 4 Goku wouldn’t stand a chance against Super Saiyan Blue Goku, the truth is that it’s very hard to guess which one is the strongest. It's a part of his power set, like a transformation into … Inability to access isn’t the same as not having altogether. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Aesop. Goku and Duplicate Vegeta both power up and deliver strong blows, which causes a huge shockwave. Monaka accidentally destroys the Commensons Core allowing Goku the chance to destroy the Duplicate Vegeta. That right there concluded Goku vs Vegeta with Vegeta as the very established winner. Romaji name This saga is TV Original and not based on the manga. Supreme Kai also states every Kai that Boo absorbed had the power to beat Freeza in a single punch. Saiyan Saga Round 3: (Free-for-All) Vegeta loses Overall Earth wins, Goku stated that he would beat Vegeta next time, giving Vegeta the win but in Vegeta's mind, he still lost to Goku. GokÅ« tai fukusei BejÄ«ta! Super Boo wanted a challenge. Goku vs. the Duplicate Vegeta! Vegeta 8/10. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Goku_vs._the_Duplicate_Vegeta!_Which_One_Is_Going_to_Win%3F!?oldid=1938026. Compared to Goku, Vegeta's relationship with Sonic was that of co-workers who got along well enough, but didn't really interact with each other all that much. While Goku and Duplicate Vegeta's fight are destroying their surroundings, the others quickly retreat. Vegeta Disappears?! Menace of the Duplicate Vegeta! Combat. Potage notes that even though the core was destroyed, time has ran out and Vegeta is disappearing. June 5, 2016 Do you think Goku knew from the start he was going to lose and chose to fight anyways to protect Earth? King Kai warned Goku that Vegeta would be too strong. Again to prove the point, SSJ2 Vegeta at full power (even detonating his own body) didn’t even phase Fat Boo. Do you think he simply fought for the challenge? Goku uses Instant Transmission to constantly teleport around Duplicate Vegeta and lands an attack on him, and starts turning the battle in his favor. 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